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of course, iran, that is looking forward to this proxy war to test israel, see what israel is able to accomplish. i think part have what israel has to accomplish is try to disarm hamas so hamas can't be a weapon against them if they ever have to attack iran. >> greta: i don't know how much choice there is. probably zero, but the whole idea that president morsi is one going to broker the deal. he did call israel a terror state and obviously taken his side. secondly, his country has been the country that iran sent these missiles that can reach tel aviv and jerusalem have been laundered through sudan, laundered through egypt, laundered into the gaza and into hamas. egypt is up to their eyeballs in supplying hamas with these weapons that can now reach these cities. >> this the guy that wants to have blind shake released trying to bomb the hell out of my city. to be honest broker, he is completely on the side of hamas. he has made it clear he supports islamic extremists and terrorism. if he were interested in peace here, he would be saying to hamas, sand down. if you keep lobbing missiles
of course, iran, that is looking forward to this proxy war to test israel, see what israel is able to accomplish. i think part have what israel has to accomplish is try to disarm hamas so hamas can't be a weapon against them if they ever have to attack iran. >> greta: i don't know how much choice there is. probably zero, but the whole idea that president morsi is one going to broker the deal. he did call israel a terror state and obviously taken his side. secondly, his country has been...
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i see them blaming israel. i see hamas actually being strengthened, and in the end, you have to include gaza have both parts of the palestinians, that's exactly what qatar and egypt have been trying to do, bring hamas and fatah closer together. i think through egypt, they have to be represented. >> when you talk to people here in gaza about hamas, what do they say publicly, may be different than what they say privately. i appreciate you being on tonight. our coverage from gaza city continues. oh no, not a migraine now. try this... bayer? this isn't just a headache. trust me, this is new bayer migraine. [ male announcer ] it's the power of aspirin plus more in a triple action formula to relieve your tough migraines. new bayer migraine formula. [ gordon ] for some this line is a convenience. how you doing today? i'm good thanks. how are you? i'm good. [ gordon ] but for others, it's all they can afford. every day nearly nine million older americans don't have enough to eat. anything else? no, not today. join me,
i see them blaming israel. i see hamas actually being strengthened, and in the end, you have to include gaza have both parts of the palestinians, that's exactly what qatar and egypt have been trying to do, bring hamas and fatah closer together. i think through egypt, they have to be represented. >> when you talk to people here in gaza about hamas, what do they say publicly, may be different than what they say privately. i appreciate you being on tonight. our coverage from gaza city...
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one of the huge cities in israel. as we are watching the last couple of days from rockets from hamas lobbying into israel, they have reached places, they have reached neighborhoods in and around tel aviv and jerusalem and the rest of the country. so again, we don't know what caused this explosion. this is all very fresh. you see people racing about. we don't know injuries, presumably there are injuries based upon these pictures and the bus there. >> you can see the pictures on the left side of the screen. that's coverage from a television station in tel aviv. the fighting raged overnight. they were not able to secure a cease-fire. the fighting raged overnight into the morning and now you've got secretary of state hillary clinton on her way to a meeting there today with mohamed morsi to broker a near-term cease-fire piece. but just showing you the violence continues with this explosion on a bus in tel aviv. we know there are injuries and we'll update you with details as we get them. >> we have reporters on the ground i
one of the huge cities in israel. as we are watching the last couple of days from rockets from hamas lobbying into israel, they have reached places, they have reached neighborhoods in and around tel aviv and jerusalem and the rest of the country. so again, we don't know what caused this explosion. this is all very fresh. you see people racing about. we don't know injuries, presumably there are injuries based upon these pictures and the bus there. >> you can see the pictures on the left...
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our solidarity has to be with israel. this is a point where israel has been under attack for a long period of time and nothing has solved it. also, during this period of time, i think the importance of achieving a two-state solution really cannot be underestimated. there's going to be no more better partner than mahmoud abbas and i think to a great extent, the inability to enable israel and the palestinians to come together, perhaps this will provide that opportunity. perhaps the secretary of state will play a very dominant role. after all, her husband came the closest of anybody to establishing a two-state solution. so she knows exactly where all of this stands and what might be able to solve what has been an historic and very difficult situation. >> part of the problem for mahmoud abbas is that he's being increasingly seen to be marginalized. hamas seem to be the emerging power there with more control perhaps over the body of palestinians, and he is seen as somebody slightly out of touch from where the real action is. n
our solidarity has to be with israel. this is a point where israel has been under attack for a long period of time and nothing has solved it. also, during this period of time, i think the importance of achieving a two-state solution really cannot be underestimated. there's going to be no more better partner than mahmoud abbas and i think to a great extent, the inability to enable israel and the palestinians to come together, perhaps this will provide that opportunity. perhaps the secretary of...
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that's good for israel. that's also good for gaza. >> mark regev, thank you for joining me. >> my pleasure, sir. >> i want to turn to the other side. welcome to you, sir. how much of a concern is it to you that abas had very little to do with this cease-fire being broken? in fact, nothing, we understand. >> no, i hope the americans will not fall into another mistake. palestine and the palestine question is indivisible. gaza is part of the palestinian territory. they are part of the palestinian people. and the question of palestinian leadership is authentic. the people elected the leader of the palestinian people. but the americans try to divert their attention from the central issue of how to go about making peace in the middle east, and try to concentrate just how to control one party or another, this will be a grave mistake, a disservice to peace and to the stability of this region. >> so are you personally concerned that all the dealings here appear to have been done directly with hamas, and not with a wi
that's good for israel. that's also good for gaza. >> mark regev, thank you for joining me. >> my pleasure, sir. >> i want to turn to the other side. welcome to you, sir. how much of a concern is it to you that abas had very little to do with this cease-fire being broken? in fact, nothing, we understand. >> no, i hope the americans will not fall into another mistake. palestine and the palestine question is indivisible. gaza is part of the palestinian territory. they are...
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and israel. and then, she will then go to egypt and talk with egypt's president mohamed mursi and egypt is taking the lead in this negotiation with hamas. so u.s. believes that egypt is playing a very concrete and positive role, and so it looks like all sides are prepared to give some more time for diplomacy to be worked out. >> christiane, what's your sense of the american role in this decision to halt the ground invasion? obviously, like you said, it would have been very unseemly had it been done while hillary clinton was on the ground there. but is she going because there has been progress? or is she going because she needs to break some sort of stalema stalemate? >> well, probably to lend support, and to, you know, put the u.s. point of view, and to, as they say, look face-to-face at the counterparts and be there in the room with them. this is a very critical time. everybody in this region knows it. of course, everybody in the u.s. knows, too, that the last thing you want is to see a massive
and israel. and then, she will then go to egypt and talk with egypt's president mohamed mursi and egypt is taking the lead in this negotiation with hamas. so u.s. believes that egypt is playing a very concrete and positive role, and so it looks like all sides are prepared to give some more time for diplomacy to be worked out. >> christiane, what's your sense of the american role in this decision to halt the ground invasion? obviously, like you said, it would have been very unseemly had it...
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probably the only one that can deliver israel. but that requires a quite significant reframing of how america uses its leverage with israel. so far, it has been extremely allergic, also under president obama, to use that leverage. if america doesn't use that leverage, i would say, forget about a two-state solution. >> we'll post some of those precise points you bring up here to the spokesperson from benjamin netanyahu when we talk to him a little bit later this morning. daniel levy, thank you so much, former adviser to israel prime minister, ehud barak. >>> a bloody night across syria. government air strikes targeting a hospital in the war-torn town of aleppo. rebel forces say the blast killed at least 40 people. it's the second time that hospital has been attacked by the syrian regime. earlier this year, the maternity ward was badly damaged by an artillery shell. >>> new this morning, president obama delivered his annual thanksgiving address, and of course, giving thanks for the blessings we all share as americans. >> thanksgivin
probably the only one that can deliver israel. but that requires a quite significant reframing of how america uses its leverage with israel. so far, it has been extremely allergic, also under president obama, to use that leverage. if america doesn't use that leverage, i would say, forget about a two-state solution. >> we'll post some of those precise points you bring up here to the spokesperson from benjamin netanyahu when we talk to him a little bit later this morning. daniel levy, thank...
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i see them blaming israel. i see hamas actually being strengthened, and in the end, you have to include gaza, have both parts of the palestinians, that's exactly what qatar and egypt have been trying to do, bring hamas and fatah closer together. as i said, we are not going to address them separately but i think through egypt they have to be represented. >> when you talk to people here in gaza about hamas, what do they say publicly, may be different than what they say privately. we'll talk about that next. i appreciate you being on tonight. our coverage from gaza city continues. we'll be right back. >>> another rocket landed a short time ago during the commercial break here in gaza city. we'll bring that to you. also an up close look at hamas. what people really feel about hamas. we'll be right back. >>> one of the biggest strikes we saw yesterday was on this building, the islamic national bank. i'm assuming it was a target by israeli forces because this is the bank where salaries for hamas members are paid out
i see them blaming israel. i see hamas actually being strengthened, and in the end, you have to include gaza, have both parts of the palestinians, that's exactly what qatar and egypt have been trying to do, bring hamas and fatah closer together. as i said, we are not going to address them separately but i think through egypt they have to be represented. >> when you talk to people here in gaza about hamas, what do they say publicly, may be different than what they say privately. we'll talk...
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reports it is a official ally of israel and supports israel's right to defend itself. but there are concerns about an israeli ground assault that could mark a dangerous escalation in this conflict. as i mentioned, secretary of state clinton is set to meet with netanyahu in jerusalem and then with palestinian officials in ramallah in the west bank before heading to cairo to meet with egyptian leaders. that would complete the triangle. jennifer griffin is at the state department. this was not part of the president's -- well, the president's so-called pivot to asia, jennifer. >> the middle east conflict as you and i both know has a way of pulling every administration back in. you remember that bill clinton as one of his last agenda items as president tried to come up with peace between the israelis and the palestinians. he failed. now secretary of state hillary clinton has left what was supposed to be her last trip with the president to asia. she made her way. she has just landed in jerusalem. she will meet tonight with prime minister benjamin netanyahu. she does not plan
reports it is a official ally of israel and supports israel's right to defend itself. but there are concerns about an israeli ground assault that could mark a dangerous escalation in this conflict. as i mentioned, secretary of state clinton is set to meet with netanyahu in jerusalem and then with palestinian officials in ramallah in the west bank before heading to cairo to meet with egyptian leaders. that would complete the triangle. jennifer griffin is at the state department. this was not...
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i see them blaming israel. i see hamas strengthen strengthened, and in the end, you have to include gaza have both parts of the palestinians, that's exactly what qatar and egypt have been trying to do, bring hamas and fatah closer together. i think through egypt, they have to be represented. >> when you talk to people here in gaza about hamas, what do they say publicly, may be different than what they say privately. i appreciate you being on tonight. our coverage from gaza city continues. [ male announcer ] with over 50 delicious choices of green giant vegetables it's easy to eat like a giant... ♪ and feel like a green giant. ♪ ho ho ho ♪ green giant and his new boss told him two things -- cook what you love, and save your money. joe doesn't know it yet, but he'll work his way up from busser to waiter to chef before opening a restaurant specializing in fish and game from the great northwest. he'll start investing early, he'll find some good people to help guide him, and he'll set money aside from his firs
i see them blaming israel. i see hamas strengthen strengthened, and in the end, you have to include gaza have both parts of the palestinians, that's exactly what qatar and egypt have been trying to do, bring hamas and fatah closer together. i think through egypt, they have to be represented. >> when you talk to people here in gaza about hamas, what do they say publicly, may be different than what they say privately. i appreciate you being on tonight. our coverage from gaza city continues....
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israel is going to react to that. i think you'll see a very intense demonstration between them to cease and desist. >> gaza is not a big area. at some point they have to run out of pockets to some degree, don't they? >> yeah, but that's a big risk. so the big driver of the israeli operation right now is the long-range rockets that were allegedly supplied by iran and which hamas has been using to target major urban centers in israel like tel aviv, like jerusalem. tel aviv has been the red line for israel, and as long as hamas has been in possession of these rockets and can maintain that threat against israeli population centers, israel can't afford to sit back. so the air strikes, yes, they have been achieving some success, but hamas has still been lobbying those rockets over. we saw that today with strikes in jerusalem as well as in tel aviv, so it really comes down to that intelligence question. how many rockets does hamas have in its possession, and if hamas is able to get out of this with some rockets, that's a hug
israel is going to react to that. i think you'll see a very intense demonstration between them to cease and desist. >> gaza is not a big area. at some point they have to run out of pockets to some degree, don't they? >> yeah, but that's a big risk. so the big driver of the israeli operation right now is the long-range rockets that were allegedly supplied by iran and which hamas has been using to target major urban centers in israel like tel aviv, like jerusalem. tel aviv has been...
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anderson cooper is in gaza city, anderson cooper is in israel. -- wolf blitzer is in israel. >> israel has said that the israeli air force struck more than 120 targets on sunday in gaza. most notably, the house of a -- the hamas the head of a hamas rocket unit. initially say had said they killed that man. they can't verify whether or not they did -- the local ambulance crews said that as many as ten civilians, women and children were inside the house at the time. the israelis do acknowledge that this man's family was in the house at the time. but they cannot confirm if he was there. israeli -- hitting some local journalists, they had called up some french journalists in advance of the strike, and told them to get out of the building, and they did evacuate, but some journalists did go back inside. there was a response to that, there's been a number of large explosions already this evening and we an fticipate in the hour ahead. >> what's the feeling you get of the atmosphere right now when you see people in gaza and you know it's going to be another long night there? >> it's obviously a
anderson cooper is in gaza city, anderson cooper is in israel. -- wolf blitzer is in israel. >> israel has said that the israeli air force struck more than 120 targets on sunday in gaza. most notably, the house of a -- the hamas the head of a hamas rocket unit. initially say had said they killed that man. they can't verify whether or not they did -- the local ambulance crews said that as many as ten civilians, women and children were inside the house at the time. the israelis do...
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meanwhile, israel is not taking any chances. tomorrow schools will remained closed if they're within 30 miles of the border. >> shannon: thank you. cease-fire appears to be a foreign policy achievement for the obama administration. many problems remain in the volatile of the tough neighborhoods. here is ed henry. >> president obama has a lot riding on the outcome in the middle east. violence flaring up weeks before the start of the second term. he was on the phone again today with two leaders he has a complicated relationship with. egyptian president mohammed morsi and israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu. the president getting netanyahu to agree to the tentative cease-fire with the carrot of additional u.s. funding for iron dome and other missile defense progra programs. >> i have agreed we will fight weapons of terror. >> u.s. and israel knows they send the rockets to hamas through egypt, which is why the president is using more of a stick in the conversation with morsi. today, hillary clinton praising and pushing morsi,
meanwhile, israel is not taking any chances. tomorrow schools will remained closed if they're within 30 miles of the border. >> shannon: thank you. cease-fire appears to be a foreign policy achievement for the obama administration. many problems remain in the volatile of the tough neighborhoods. here is ed henry. >> president obama has a lot riding on the outcome in the middle east. violence flaring up weeks before the start of the second term. he was on the phone again today with...
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israel doesn't want to do that. they want to pair up the old agreements that says are necessary to restrict the flow of goods goo gaza, to restrict the e flow of weapons and israel believes in you allow more products to come into gaza, there will be more weapons coming in and israel is positioned thus far -- stop firing rockets and then with hamas about some of these other things like the trade restrictions. >> we're having a little trouble with your uplink in terms of you jumping in and out of your question. let me ask about secretary of state hillary clinton arriving in the region. what are the best hopes and expectations for what she's going to be able to do? is she going to change anything in terms of the balance of power and how this is likely to be resolved? >> it depends if she can convince the egyptians to convince hamas. they feel confident because the arab spring has given it a new batch of friends. if hillary clinton can pressure hamas and can be persuaded by mohamed morsi her chances are pretty good. if
israel doesn't want to do that. they want to pair up the old agreements that says are necessary to restrict the flow of goods goo gaza, to restrict the e flow of weapons and israel believes in you allow more products to come into gaza, there will be more weapons coming in and israel is positioned thus far -- stop firing rockets and then with hamas about some of these other things like the trade restrictions. >> we're having a little trouble with your uplink in terms of you jumping in and...
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like to put israel on a map. the second step stop the incitement. the idea that when they square is named in a local town, local city council is doing this decision, the palestinians have said a message, we are not about that. we named the square after someone who kills israelis that we are not going to celebrate that. third start talking about two states for two peoples and acknowledge there's a jewish connection to the land and jerusalem. you don't have to go beyond that but acknowledged that israel doesn't undercut palestinian rights but acknowledges the reality that you recognize the israeli claims. forth, condition your people for peace. here i'm going to quote. used to say to mail the time, i'm not asking for the moon. i'm not asking for the palestinians to spell out all their concessions. i'm asking them to take the template. he talked peace -- and what it means we have hard decisions to make. the fifth step five or six years ago abu mazen said when asked the question where where's the say the palestinians
like to put israel on a map. the second step stop the incitement. the idea that when they square is named in a local town, local city council is doing this decision, the palestinians have said a message, we are not about that. we named the square after someone who kills israelis that we are not going to celebrate that. third start talking about two states for two peoples and acknowledge there's a jewish connection to the land and jerusalem. you don't have to go beyond that but acknowledged that...
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will hamas agree not to throw rockets into israel, which was the main demand that israel had? if you remember, unlike -- when they wanted to get rid of the hamas leadership in gaza, they never said that this time. this was not about regime change or getting rid of hamas. it was about stopping those rockets. if that happens, that will be good for israel. and for hamas, if they manage to get their leaders to be able to survive and not be able to be assassinate bid israel that, would be good, and also if they get the blockade lifted that, will be good too. that's what they wanted. hamas, of course, has emerge as diplomatically triumphant only because it's failed to be isolated as israel, other countries have wanted in the past. >> and as we have always said, by all parties, want to walk away from this claiming victory, and we'll see if that actually occurs. christian, we'll be back with you shortly. thank so much. >> still 52 minutes before the cease-fire is expected to take hold, and we'll see. i mean, we will see how this develops throughout the afternoon, whether or not this i
will hamas agree not to throw rockets into israel, which was the main demand that israel had? if you remember, unlike -- when they wanted to get rid of the hamas leadership in gaza, they never said that this time. this was not about regime change or getting rid of hamas. it was about stopping those rockets. if that happens, that will be good for israel. and for hamas, if they manage to get their leaders to be able to survive and not be able to be assassinate bid israel that, would be good, and...
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. >> bob: they have embassy in israel and recognize israel is a country. they do that. they accepted that. >> eric: they did. that >> bob: they are still there. they haven't denounced it, have they? >> greg: make a bright spot about hillary, she called it "terrorism." >> dana: how refreshing. >> greg: she called the rocket attacks terror. there is still some in the media when they discuss hamas not referring to the rockets being lobbed in to communities where there are innocent people. not referring to it as terror like it's angry tenants. what do you call it? fear of language. >> bob: keep in mind to be fair the israelis, i understand why they are bombing where they are bombing but they are sending out patchlets to say please evacuate the neighborhood. before they don't do that and they bombed houses and children died. >> andrea: palestinians purposefully put their weapons underneath children -- >> dana: we have to take a break. >> bob: this is the house of an hamas leader. >> andrea: for p.r. to show pictures of blown up children to get media sympathy. >> bob: i'm say
. >> bob: they have embassy in israel and recognize israel is a country. they do that. they accepted that. >> eric: they did. that >> bob: they are still there. they haven't denounced it, have they? >> greg: make a bright spot about hillary, she called it "terrorism." >> dana: how refreshing. >> greg: she called the rocket attacks terror. there is still some in the media when they discuss hamas not referring to the rockets being lobbed in to...
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suspected of collaborating with israel and in israel rocket strikes have now killed five people. the first israeli military fatality today an 18-year-old soldier. >> it's very difficult on a civilian population in particular. >> reporter: that's the backdrop for the difficult and delicate cease fire talks taking place in egypt. president obama reportly talked for the third time in 24 hours with egypt's president who's trying to broke a deal and secretary of state hillary clinton arrived in reist reel. >> advance the security and legitimate aspirations of israelis and palestinians palestinians alike. >> reporter: this afternoon i spoke with cnn correspondent who said people on both sides now want more than just a temporary cease fire. >> reporter: all of this talk that it's going to be this way or that and getting to that is a very difficult thing to do. >> reporter: in the meantime she says palestinians and israelis will stay calm until a lasting resolution. >>> you can go view her story. >>> just one week after clearing his name, the puppeteer for sesame streets eale moe is step
suspected of collaborating with israel and in israel rocket strikes have now killed five people. the first israeli military fatality today an 18-year-old soldier. >> it's very difficult on a civilian population in particular. >> reporter: that's the backdrop for the difficult and delicate cease fire talks taking place in egypt. president obama reportly talked for the third time in 24 hours with egypt's president who's trying to broke a deal and secretary of state hillary clinton...
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day seven of the israel/gaza bloodshed. hamas says there's a cease-fire agreement with israel but israeli spokesman says it is not a done deal. >> i understand they want a time-out. but if they're interested in a time-out just to regroup and come and shoot back at israelis a week from now after they've rested and replenished missile stocks we're not interested in that. >> want to go straight to wolf blitzer live in jerusalem. wolf, first of all, tell us what the state of the cease-fire is. you've been talking with israeli
day seven of the israel/gaza bloodshed. hamas says there's a cease-fire agreement with israel but israeli spokesman says it is not a done deal. >> i understand they want a time-out. but if they're interested in a time-out just to regroup and come and shoot back at israelis a week from now after they've rested and replenished missile stocks we're not interested in that. >> want to go straight to wolf blitzer live in jerusalem. wolf, first of all, tell us what the state of the...
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not just the enemies of israel. the enemies of peace, regional stability in the region, and to peace, both internally on the palestinian side and between palestinians and israel. so we are targeting that military infrastructure so we will be able to sit down with good people on the other side, for real constructive talks. >> that's his side. what needs to happen long-term here, mr. zogby? >> well, look, i am no fan of hamas, never have been and never will be. their tactics are deplorable. and their politics, i don't agree with. but at the end of the day, people have to talk. and hamas is going to have to be a party to the conversation whether we like it or not. so the ambassador is just dead wrong. and those on hamas side who take a hard line and an aggressive posture and those who are hurling missiles at israel, those on the israeli side who are planning an incursion and 600 aerial strikes that israel launched in gaza yesterday, are all enemies of peace. the fact is this is not going to be solved militarily. there
not just the enemies of israel. the enemies of peace, regional stability in the region, and to peace, both internally on the palestinian side and between palestinians and israel. so we are targeting that military infrastructure so we will be able to sit down with good people on the other side, for real constructive talks. >> that's his side. what needs to happen long-term here, mr. zogby? >> well, look, i am no fan of hamas, never have been and never will be. their tactics are...
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but israel imposed restrictions for a reason. you had this hostile fire into israel. they were shooting rockets into our cities and trying to kill our people. is it really fair to expect that you would have normal trading relations -- >> but if that does stop, would you see a possibility for a two-state solution? a possibility for it? >> look, you're raising other issues. first of all, if the firing stops, israel is willing to move forward with egypt in discussions about easing restrictions that still remain. on your latter question, of course we want a two-state solution. of course we want peace. we understand that peace is the only real solution. and we've called upon the palestinian leadership to start peace talks immediately without any preconditions. unfortunately, we've had problems. they haven't agreed. we hope they'll agree soon. but you must remember, hamas, unfortunately, is the enemy of peace. hamas doesn't want to negotiate. hamas says that any palestinian who negotiates with israel is a trader to the palestinian cause. they have a very, very hard line. if
but israel imposed restrictions for a reason. you had this hostile fire into israel. they were shooting rockets into our cities and trying to kill our people. is it really fair to expect that you would have normal trading relations -- >> but if that does stop, would you see a possibility for a two-state solution? a possibility for it? >> look, you're raising other issues. first of all, if the firing stops, israel is willing to move forward with egypt in discussions about easing...
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the south of israel. the israeli authorities believe they could no longer sit by and not respond to this latest round of fighting the hamas initiative. >> can you respond to what james said and also talk specifically about what you do in your most recent article, yousef munayyer? >> i think one of the biggest mistakes we make is we totally removed the situation from the context in which it is in. to describe this as a war is incorrect. if it is a war, it is a war on the people of gaza. to describe it as a war increase the impression there are two people sides in any way is really misleading. this is not an international conflict between two states. this is a domestic issue within the israeli state that it is using massive force to repress the palestinian population. if you look at the gaza strip on the map, it is this tiny strip of land in the corner of what was palestine. a 80% of the people there are not from the gaza strip. there from outside the gaza strip. they were made refugees in 1948. what you ha
the south of israel. the israeli authorities believe they could no longer sit by and not respond to this latest round of fighting the hamas initiative. >> can you respond to what james said and also talk specifically about what you do in your most recent article, yousef munayyer? >> i think one of the biggest mistakes we make is we totally removed the situation from the context in which it is in. to describe this as a war is incorrect. if it is a war, it is a war on the people of...
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have actually struck israel. another 307 have been intercepted by israel's so-called iron dome defense system. meanwhile, israel carried out 80 strikes today. it has now targeted 1,300 sites in gaza since it began its bombing campaign last wednesday. ben wedeman is in gaza city tonight. ben, how are civilians dealing with this conflict? some of those numbers we hear, 870 people injured are frightening. >> yeah, they're not dealing very well with it. it's a very difficult situation. you have to keep in mind, erin, that here in gaza, they don't have early warning systems. they don't have bomb shelters. they don't have an iron dome system to protect them. so, they feel very exposed. don't see a lot of people out in the street. when they do go out, they do it so very quickly. they get supplies. and really, they're just watching the television. listening to the news. awaiting to see if israel is going to go ahead with its ground incursion because as difficult as the situation is now, it will become much, much worse if
have actually struck israel. another 307 have been intercepted by israel's so-called iron dome defense system. meanwhile, israel carried out 80 strikes today. it has now targeted 1,300 sites in gaza since it began its bombing campaign last wednesday. ben wedeman is in gaza city tonight. ben, how are civilians dealing with this conflict? some of those numbers we hear, 870 people injured are frightening. >> yeah, they're not dealing very well with it. it's a very difficult situation. you...
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supported israel, where there is unity in israel. relatively speaking. where the arab and the muslim street haven't risen up. what is the big channel? iran. so, i think it's possible. this is the optimistic view but i mostly believe it. it's quite possible that netanyahu is more strongly positioned to deal with iran at the enof this conflict than ten days ago. >> i call that wildly optimistic. i think hamas has not lost anything. in effect it will come out of these negotiations gained something. we have don't know what it is now. it did this with utter impunity. that in and of itself is a victory. >> i just think that the arab street is still up. when you hear that turkish prime minister calling israelis terrorists and you have the sense that charles calls it pornography but of the death of children among palestinians, there is great upset in the arab world. the question is can -- how does it play in syria? do iranians exploit it to their end? at the moment, if the grand troops can be restrained and netanyahu should be credited with responding to preside
supported israel, where there is unity in israel. relatively speaking. where the arab and the muslim street haven't risen up. what is the big channel? iran. so, i think it's possible. this is the optimistic view but i mostly believe it. it's quite possible that netanyahu is more strongly positioned to deal with iran at the enof this conflict than ten days ago. >> i call that wildly optimistic. i think hamas has not lost anything. in effect it will come out of these negotiations gained...
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israel is not under the bus. the fact is that president obama, and we shall not forget it, helped us to find us those missiles. and security -- we asked them. they responded positively. and is the president of the united states. we enjoy the support of the two parties. and it is -- and i don't want to say anything against candidate romney any time. but we are not taking parts in the american campaign. and we are lucky to have the support of the two parties. and until -- it's hard to become the president of the united states. and i met all the presidents for the last 50 years, republicans and democrats. i must say, most of them are exceedingly friendly. exceedingly. >> so what about you? you're getting close to 90 years old. that's hard to believe. you look so great. how do you feel? >> i feel that i am too young to do the job. what can i tell you? >> because you still have some energy left. >> i think that everybody can be like me. and i think i'm lucky to show my people. i'm here not to woo the people. someone h
israel is not under the bus. the fact is that president obama, and we shall not forget it, helped us to find us those missiles. and security -- we asked them. they responded positively. and is the president of the united states. we enjoy the support of the two parties. and it is -- and i don't want to say anything against candidate romney any time. but we are not taking parts in the american campaign. and we are lucky to have the support of the two parties. and until -- it's hard to become the...
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clearly throughout israel. but the fact is, you have this densely populated area and people -- civilians dying because they are living, you know, side by side in the same buildings as hamas leaders that you take out? >> that is the fault of hamas. hamas has put its fighters in the very midst of a densely populated area because they not only have a military strategy of trying to kill the maximum number of israeli citizens, they have a media strategy. they want us to fire back at them and if we injure pll civilians or -- palestinian civilians or kill them tragically, they can use that sensationalize, put the pictures on the newspaper and delegitimize us and deny us the right to defend ourselves. if we injure or god forbid kill palestinians for us that's a tragedy. if they kill israelis for them that's a victory. it's completely different set of rules for hamas and for israel. this time, we were able to reduce in this round of fighting -- the last round was in 2008 -- 2009, a higher level of civilian casualties. w
clearly throughout israel. but the fact is, you have this densely populated area and people -- civilians dying because they are living, you know, side by side in the same buildings as hamas leaders that you take out? >> that is the fault of hamas. hamas has put its fighters in the very midst of a densely populated area because they not only have a military strategy of trying to kill the maximum number of israeli citizens, they have a media strategy. they want us to fire back at them and...
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it's occurring in israel too. we heard earlier rockets landed in ashkelon, a city near israel. in the past three days at least three people have been killed in israel. we're cooping an eye on everything that's come in. and video is pouring in. once we have more information, we'll bring it back to you. but that's it for now, victor. >> well, i want to put back up this live picture that we've been seeing. this is from reuters, and this is gaza city. and, of course, as we see things live, we're going to bring those to you. nick valencia monitoring and bringing things to you. thanks for that. >>> could this whole thing be a political game? aisle e ask one of the world ice leading experts on the conflict. >>> and president obama woke up in thailand this morning. what's on the agenda for his historic trip to asia. ♪ [ gordon ] for some this line is a convenience. how you doing today? i'm good thanks. how are you? i'm good. [ gordon ] but for others, it's all they can afford. every day nearly nine million older americans don't have enough to eat. anything else? no, not today. join m
it's occurring in israel too. we heard earlier rockets landed in ashkelon, a city near israel. in the past three days at least three people have been killed in israel. we're cooping an eye on everything that's come in. and video is pouring in. once we have more information, we'll bring it back to you. but that's it for now, victor. >> well, i want to put back up this live picture that we've been seeing. this is from reuters, and this is gaza city. and, of course, as we see things live,...
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i see them blaming israel. i see hamas actually being strengthened and in the end, you've got to include gaza. you've got to have both parts of the palestinians. that's exactly what qatar and egypt have been trying to do is bring hamas and fatah closer together. so i think as i said, we're not going to address them directly but through egypt, i think they have to be represented. >> when you talk to people here in gaza about hamas, what they say publicly is often different than what they may say to you privately off camera. we will talk about that with ben wedeman next. also more with anne-marie. fuad, appreciate you being on. jill as well. we'll be right back. [ male announcer ] this is sheldon, whose long dy setting up the news starts with arthritis pain and a choice. take tylenol or take aleve, the #1 recommended pain reliever by orthopedic doctors. just two aleve can keep pain away all day. back to the news. [ gordon ] for some this line is a convenience. how you doing today? i'm good thanks. how are you? i'
i see them blaming israel. i see hamas actually being strengthened and in the end, you've got to include gaza. you've got to have both parts of the palestinians. that's exactly what qatar and egypt have been trying to do is bring hamas and fatah closer together. so i think as i said, we're not going to address them directly but through egypt, i think they have to be represented. >> when you talk to people here in gaza about hamas, what they say publicly is often different than what they...
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and violence with israel. so they talked a lot about armed resistance, but they fired very few rockets and they didn't let anybody else do it. because of the internal power struggle and because they want to say to the external leadership and to everybody else in hamas, hey, we rule gaza and we do the fighting against israel, they have unfurled again the banner of armed resistance and dragged this in. now, let me just say, though, israel too escalated at one point. there was a cease-fire that was holding and israel used that cease-fire and they admit this to lull hamas into a false sense of security and murder its military commander, which set off the latest round, so -- and they are in an election cycle and i think israeli politicians are also sinically using this violence to seem tough, to strike a pose, to win points against their rivals, and so i think you have very few clean hands here. i do think, yeah, the change within dynamics within hamas explain why this started again in 2012. >> and very quickly, i
and violence with israel. so they talked a lot about armed resistance, but they fired very few rockets and they didn't let anybody else do it. because of the internal power struggle and because they want to say to the external leadership and to everybody else in hamas, hey, we rule gaza and we do the fighting against israel, they have unfurled again the banner of armed resistance and dragged this in. now, let me just say, though, israel too escalated at one point. there was a cease-fire that...
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israel wants to deal. if there's no deal, then as they keep saying, all options are still open. >> martin fletcher reporting from tel aviv, thanks so much. >>> we want to bring in our political panel. we have nationally syndicated radio talk show host and msnbc contributor michael and perry bacon, political editor. yes men, great to have you here. it seems that every president in modern times has had to deal with the tensions that flair up within the middle east. they always try to talk about overseeing a long-term cease-fire. as we should on the brink of those discussions right now, between gaza and israel, what is the broader impact of the idea that not only will there be a cease-fire, but the fact that israel's neighbors will verify their right to exist, which is the longer formatted problem? >> well, yeah, i think we shouldn't get ahead of ourselves. i think the first step is to cease hostilities. i think that the state department has already said that's step one for secretary of state clinton's arriva
israel wants to deal. if there's no deal, then as they keep saying, all options are still open. >> martin fletcher reporting from tel aviv, thanks so much. >>> we want to bring in our political panel. we have nationally syndicated radio talk show host and msnbc contributor michael and perry bacon, political editor. yes men, great to have you here. it seems that every president in modern times has had to deal with the tensions that flair up within the middle east. they always try...
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would say if 700 rockets hit you, israel has a right to self-defense. if this gets out of hand, you have a new government in egypt that shares some roots, some political roots, with hamas but doesn't want to wreck its relationship with us. you have the situation in syria that is so violent and i think israel knows that it wants to be careful not to let this out of hand. and so maybe this three party, i agree with martin, this three-party agreement could be very important and maybe a sign that in his second term president obama is going to get more engaged in the peace process. there has been talk of sending president clinton as a mideast envoy. i thought that was an intriguing idea. but at least i think this is -- these are all very good signs for the situation. >> e.j., stay with us, and martin fletcher, thanks to you. i want to bring in senator chris koonce. senator, good morning. >> good morning 0, chris. >> the senate did unanimously pass that resolution standing by israel, something you co-response arored. what do you think hillary clinton brings t
would say if 700 rockets hit you, israel has a right to self-defense. if this gets out of hand, you have a new government in egypt that shares some roots, some political roots, with hamas but doesn't want to wreck its relationship with us. you have the situation in syria that is so violent and i think israel knows that it wants to be careful not to let this out of hand. and so maybe this three party, i agree with martin, this three-party agreement could be very important and maybe a sign that...